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alons
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Hi,

The Softaculous Team has decided that Softaculous will become a Premium / Paid Auto Installer. Softaculous has 100 scripts and is the best of its kind because of its simple design and fast speed. Its growth has been enormous and is still growing. The Pricing Structure is as Follows:
1) $24/year for Dedicated Server Licenses
2) $12/year for VPS Server Licenses
3) $150 for LIFETIME Dedicated Server Licenses
4) $75 for LIFETIME VPS Server Licenses

For all the current licenses, they will be Premium Licenses till 31/12/2010 i.e. nearly 1 year and 4 months. Also there is an opportunity for these licenses to convert to LIFETIME Licenses for JUST $24 for Dedicated Servers and $12 for VPS Servers. The offer is valid only till 31/12/2009, after which the lifetime discount will be removed.
You can purchase the licenses from here:
http://www.softaculous.com/clients

Existing License holders who wish to upgrade to the Lifetime Licenses AT the discounted rate please choose the $24/year OR $12/year option while purchasing. The license will automatically be converted to Lifetime when you pay for it.
If you have any questions please contact us at sales [at] softaculous.com

After listening to a lot of Webhosters big and small we made this decision.
- Many hosters voiced their opinions that Softaculous be made PAID for it to gain a greater reputation.
- Some said that they would like to use it but were unsure of its future and hence refrained from using it.
- Some said that they were selling hosting and would not like to depend on a FREE product to sell their Premium hosting.
- Some doubted the Support they would get as Softaculous was free.
- Some installed Softaculous alongwith other auto installers like Fantastico and Installatron and advertised that Softaculous is NOT SUCH A PREMIUM installer than the others instead of having nearly double the scripts, installing much faster and demos, ratings, reviews.

Hence we have decided to make it paid to give it a better image and also to give us some incentive to work all the more harder for it.
The team comprises of three friends who are all college students and code as much as we can on Softaculous.
The team has invested too much and not even recovered anything.
Softaculous has got all our backing inspite of all this and what holds in the future.

We know People LOVE FREE stuff and even we do! But some dont!
But for People who LOVE FREE STUFF Like us, Softaculous will also have a FREE Version consisting of 58 scripts. The number of scripts is more than those available in other PAID Auto Installers.

Softaculous 2.0 also holds many new things that will add to Softaculous Glory.
More 50 scripts are being added. Then why should people say Softaculous is not better ?

The whole website is also being worked upon and Support Center will be online soon. Lots happening here and we know you huys will support Softaculous.

Please post your views in this topic.

Regards,
The Softaculous Team

Edited by alons : September 23, 2009, 5:27 am

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Could you guys offer monthly licenses for $3 for VPS and $5 for dedicated servers? Rates for bulk licenses too?


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Have too say I'm disappointed.

I think support should have been a premium service, and not the script.
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Quote From : RPD-Darren August 27, 2009, 11:43 am
Have too say I'm disappointed.

I think support should have been a premium service, and not the script.
He could do a 5 domain license for free but not do it like installatron where you have to have 1 domain.


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I'm rather disappointed in this move as well. For something that hasn't proven itself, going this route isn't the best. In fact, take a look at how well about 90 - 100% of the FREE Open Source scripts that you install do, because they are free, and because they are open source - allowing the community to put together a much much better product than 3 people would be able to.

Although you brag about the 150 scripts you have to offer, I have to yet to actually install more than 5 of them, which I haven't been able to. And then I got told by support that there's a problem with my server. In fact, the way my servers are configured doesn't suite Softaculous at all. Yet, at the same time Fantastico & Installatron both work 100% on these same servers. How is it possible that 2 other scripts work, and yours don't but you say yours is better?
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rlshosting
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Who gave you these ideas? I thought you said this was going to be free forever. I will not pay for your script unless I do monthly.

I am not going to run this on my server at all even if its free unless you do monthly. I will just go with installatron until then. You have not even updated the so called 50 scripts list on the 50 scripts post either.

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alons
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RLSHOSTING please undertsand that $24 / Year is much cheaper than $5/month which would total out to $60/year. Why do you want to increase the rate ?

Sir please understand Softaculous needs money to grow and survive. People are willing to pay for other Auto Installers and install Softaculous simulatneously. Its a move to let people know Softaculous is 100 scripts and better.

Softdux the point of having so many scripts is to satisfy the needs of many users at the same time. All servers are not able to suite all the 100 scripts and hence a script or two may not work. But we are here to make it work and to look into individual servers requires a great support team.

Please note again existing Licenses will be treated as PREMIUM LICENSES. You neednt pay a BUCK till 31st December 2010.

Softaculous had to take this move as its requiring a lot of financing which is not at all being recovered.
And we have kept a FREE Version having 58 scripts.

Edited by alons : August 27, 2009, 12:51 pm

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Quote From : alons August 27, 2009, 12:49 pm
RLSHOSTING please undertsand that $24 / Year is much cheaper than $5/month which would total out to $60/year. Why do you want to increase the rate ?

Sir please understand Softaculous needs money to grow and survive. People are willing to pay for other Auto Installers and install Softaculous simulatneously. Its a move to let people know Softaculous is 100 scripts.

Sir the point of having so many scripts is to satisfy the needs of many users at the same time. All servers are not able to suite all the 100 scripts and hence a script or two may not work. But we are here to make it work and to look into individual servers requires a great support team.

Please note again existing Licenses will be treated as PREMIUM LICENSES. You neednt pay a BUCK till 31st December 2010.

Softaculous had to take this move as its requiring a lot of financing which is not at all being recovered.
And we have kept a FREE Version having 58 scripts.
It may be cheaper to pay yearly for one server but I should have that option to pay monthly. I will pay more.

Who says nobody will?

Do you think I really care about paying more when I pay quite a bit for my servers, billing systems, and other things? I care about my clients and our company's well being.

I am not going to pay for 3 or more yearly licenses if I get that many servers.  $72/year..forget that.

Its easier to license 3 vps servers or 3 dedicated servers when I pay monthly so I do not have to keep extra yearly licenses without them being unused by a vps client.

I plan on offering VPS Servers in the near future.

I do not care about running something that was free forever and not free anymore.

I will remove it from my server now if I cannot pay monthly.

The reason why I do not go with fantastico directly is because I want monthly. The reason why I use Installatron is because I can do monthly.

Sorry for the edits. I am really tired and its early in the morning.


Edited by rlshosting : August 27, 2009, 1:09 pm

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Alons, while I understand why you're financing your business, I think you totally missed the point I'm brining across.

You're going to charge for a product that doesn't work. Regardless if you had 100 scripts, or 1000 scripts, it doesn't work.

Oh, and all of the scripts that I can install via Fantastico works, yet softaculous can't install 20% of the exact same scripts. I also tested all the scripts you have manually and they could install & work fine manually. So, please don't blame the server.
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Monthly billing will be up as well.
Its your choice.
But at the moment you dont owe us a penny as you still OWN PREMIUM Licenses.

Regards,
Alons

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Sad News!
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Quote From : alons August 27, 2009, 1:18 pm
Monthly billing will be up as well.
Its your choice.
But at the moment you dont owe us a penny as you still OWN PREMIUM Licenses.

Regards,
Alons
Thanks. That is all that I wanted. I appreciate it very much.


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It feels like the product was premium, you made it free too gain numbers then back too premium.
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alons
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Sir you still own a Premium license and owe softaculous nothing. You dont have to pay anything to us.

Softaculous has grown because of all of you.
But costs need to be recovered and we need to make it better by adding more people working on it.

As we turned to premium we made all existing licenses premium without demanding a Penny. Also we have given an opportunity to upgrade to lifetime at the price of a year.

If Softaculous is to gain popularity we need to get everyone in the Basket.

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mmmm bad news.... Is the same price of installatron u.u


Edited by urgido : August 27, 2009, 2:21 pm
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RPD-Darren
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Hi

I dont have a license atm, I have kloxo on my VPS and was waiting on that version.

I only have Softaculos on my reseller account.
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Alons, if you want popularity, then you need to sort out the bugs first and make sure it works on the widest possible cPanel configurations possible.
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Quote From : SoftDux August 27, 2009, 2:18 pm
Alons, if you want popularity, then you need to sort out the bugs first and make sure it works on the widest possible cPanel configurations possible.

We are doing that since day one and will continue to do that.
I appreciate your concern, likeing and anger from our movement.

But its a move to improve Softaculous as well.

Out of the 1187 servers Softaculous is installed and working on there is errors reported on 36 servers. We are working on solutions and each version we release improves Softaculous tremedously.

Softaculous discarded the use of shell_exec for importing databases which solved 90% of the problems on servers then. Fantastico still uses shell_exec for importing mysql files.

Softaculous uses cPanels and Direct Admins latest API. Fantastico doesnt.
Also we update scripts much faster than Fantastico. We try to update within 2 days and faster. I guess you know their speed!

We maintain 100 scripts!
So my question to you is why is Softaculous any inferior to Fantastico by quality ?

We respect all auto installers as well. But we have a Policy that whatever we try to do will be new and we will always work to make it the industry standard.
Please let me know how are we inferior to them in any respect.

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the lifetime license includes lifetime support and upgrades?
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Quote From : urgido August 27, 2009, 2:32 pm
the lifetime license includes lifetime support and upgrades?

YES

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few questions:

1.- is the free version out?
2.- What happen with the all free softaculous installations?
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Free version is out.
Anyone installing Softaculous without purchasing a license after 27th August 2009 1:00 PM will be a FREE License user. You dont need to do anything for a free license.

All servers running Softaculous till 27th August 2009 1:00 PM are given Premium Status till 31 December 2010 more than 1 year and 4 months from now.
We also give them a discount to convert to lifetime license only @ $24. Generally a lifetime license will cost you $150 but we are giving them this huge discount for supporting Softaculous.

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I think it's ok with that prices. $12/year for VPS license it's cheap for me.
Actually I have no problem with Softculous instalation script coz, mostly the errors have found from my system component who never install before. like curl, pdo_mysql. now, after I have rebuild my apache therefore softaculous have running well and smooth :D.

I like this auto installer coz, they have many script then others.
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Quote From : nicosoftmedia August 27, 2009, 3:22 pm
I think it's ok with that prices. $12/year for VPS license it's cheap for me.
Actually I have no problem with Softculous instalation script coz, mostly the errors have found from my system component who never install before. like curl, pdo_mysql. now, after I have rebuild my apache therefore softaculous have running well and smooth :D.

I like this auto installer coz, they have many script then others.

Thank you Akbar

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I think this move to premium is great not a problem, i only have two questions.

1. What 58 scripts are included in the free version, we need to know this so we can promote the differences from the free version to the premium version to our clients.

2. Can the yearly license be moved between servers, if i sell premium to a vps customer and they leave for whatever reason i want to be able to transfer that license to a new server with a new customer. Having to be a new yearly license for each new customer if i have stale ones because a customer left is going not be costly.

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Now, It's about the softaculous security, sir. How about that ?
It's very important too.
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Quote From : nicosoftmedia August 27, 2009, 3:36 pm
Now, It's about the softaculous security, sir. How about that ?
It's very important too.

Softaculous is very secure.
We have ironed out all kinds of bugs long ago.

ndew a list of software for free licenses is on the way.
2) You can change the primary IP of a server.

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I think this is just a surprise too most users.

The fact still remains that Softaculos is far superior too the alternatives, and the prices are very good.

I have never had many problems with Softaculos, and when I have they have been sorted very promptly.
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Quote From : RPD-Darren August 27, 2009, 4:49 pm
I think this is just a surprise too most users.

The fact still remains that Softaculos is far superior too the alternatives, and the prices are very good.

I have never had many problems with Softaculos, and when I have they have been sorted very promptly.

Thank you.

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I couldn't get logged into the client area, when I enter my UN/PW and click enter it just stares at me. Never logs in. Is it my browser or ?

I hope you guys plan to continue support after college! Be my luck you 3 will turn into dentists or something :)

I will go with dedicated server lifetime license when I get logged in.

Thanks
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Quote From : MichaelMcC August 27, 2009, 8:11 pm
I couldn't get logged into the client area, when I enter my UN/PW and click enter it just stares at me. Never logs in. Is it my browser or ?
idem, i get logged using the forum. client area didn't work.

Edited by cb03 : August 27, 2009, 9:10 pm
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Do we still have the advertisements when we pay for a license? Especially advertisments for competitors!
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Are the ads removed now on softaculous.com etc? I did not check.


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Quote From : MichaelMcC August 27, 2009, 8:11 pm
I couldn't get logged into the client area, when I enter my UN/PW and click enter it just stares at me. Never logs in. Is it my browser or ?

I hope you guys plan to continue support after college! Be my luck you 3 will turn into dentists or something :)

I will go with dedicated server lifetime license when I get logged in.

Thanks

Sir login at the forums and then go to the Client Area
It will work.
Please let us know if it doesnt. We are working on the Login issue directly from the client area.

All the ads have been removed and 2.0 will make it even better for ratings, reviews and demos.
So no ads are going to be there !

Regards,
Alons

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I have a question

Can i get a one time license for unlimited installs/servers?
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Quote From : gieathome August 28, 2009, 10:11 am
I have a question

Can i get a one time license for unlimited installs/servers?

No. We dont provide unlimited server license
However if you got many servers we can give a huge discount.

Please contact at sales [at] softaculous.com
Specify the number of servers as well.

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When are you going to release the free version (you said there are 50 scripts there, does it include blogging tools?)?
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The free version is already functional.
When you install Softaculous without purchasing a License its the free version.

Also if you have a license from before then its a premium license till 31/12/2010

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Was a bit of a surprise move, but I can fully understand your position, "free" is never taken as seriously as paid for services etc, unfortunately.

I've just upgraded to a lifetime license, for the sake of $24 it really isn't much of an issue and I could in theory keep Fantastico running if needed. I'm a student, money isn't exactly in abundance but I think this is well worth it.

Lets just hope you keep it up, thanks for the great system!
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Quote From : tweakNB August 28, 2009, 11:56 am
Was a bit of a surprise move, but I can fully understand your position, "free" is never taken as seriously as paid for services etc, unfortunately.

I've just upgraded to a lifetime license, for the sake of $24 it really isn't much of an issue and I could in theory keep Fantastico running if needed. I'm a student, money isn't exactly in abundance but I think this is well worth it.

Lets just hope you keep it up, thanks for the great system!

We will do the best.
Within 15 days softaculous should be undergoing good amount of Positive changes.
All this funding will be used to develop Softaculous further.

Thanks for the support

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So, how do we take benefit from this offer? I have already set it up on a few VPS, and will probably install it on a few more soon. How do I get the discounted prices?
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Quote From : SoftDux August 28, 2009, 1:47 pm
So, how do we take benefit from this offer? I have already set it up on a few VPS, and will probably install it on a few more soon. How do I get the discounted prices?
All VPS licenses before 27th August 2009 2:00 PM GMT can become lifetime licenses for $12 only INSTEAD of $75.
Even if you dont become lifetime PREMIUM Status has been granted to such licenses till 31-12-2010

All licenses after 27th August 2009 2:00 PM GMT will be as per the prices in the first post.
If you purchase more than 4 licenses at the same we can offer you further discounts.
And if you are a bulk purchaser even greater discount will be given to you.

Are you a VPS/Dedicated provider ?
Its better if you contact us via email at Softaculous Sales.

Regards,
Alons

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Hi i just added my license number to the client area and it's showing up as type dedicated when in fact it's installed on a vps. Is this a known issue?

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Just for discussion, I'll quote the post from the support area here too (without the quote):

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What is your aim? Trying to convince people to pay money for the project just so they can access the most-used scripts, or get as many people use it and have an extensive option available for those that wish to support your software?
If the latter, you need to at least include 2 of the most used scripts per category in the free version. For forums, phpBB3 and either SMF of MyBB.
And so on for all categories. This will make Softaculous more widely used, and once that happens there'll be more people requesting the premium version.

To be frank, though, I think that if you intend to offer a free and a premium version, you should instead of calling 'free' and 'premium', give them different names. Call the free one 'Softaculous' and give the premium one a different name (and preferable also a lay-out that looks professional but is associated with the premium version instead of free version) since those that know Softaculous, probably know it as a free service. Why? Customers can't be fooled that way if there is a clear difference between the free and the premium version. The hosts that advertise Softaculous as one of their services, advertises the 58 scripts version. The hosts that advertise the premium version, though, says they're offering more then 100 scripts. Instead of just saying 'Softaculous, an auto-installer for your favorite scripts', and leaving the customer to guess whether it is the free or the premium version.


Also, with the current setup, I wonder whether the API for creating your own auto-installers to work with Softaculous will still work in the free version. If so, how would you prevent people from just trying to mimic your installation script and offer them for free on the web, thus removing the difference. Another reason for having a different name + lay-out for the premium version.



Just some food for thought, Alons.


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Quote From : ndew August 28, 2009, 3:59 pm
Hi i just added my license number to the client area and it's showing up as type dedicated when in fact it's installed on a vps. Is this a known issue?

-ndew

Yes thats a known issue.
Just let us know and we will fix it.

2.0 will be able to determine the difference accurately and you wont need to contact us for that.
I have updated your license Info.

vT16 your point is noted down and we will discuss on a Plan of action soon.

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Quote From : vT16 August 28, 2009, 5:30 pm


To be frank, though, I think that if you intend to offer a free and a premium version, you should instead of calling 'free' and 'premium', give them different names. Call the free one 'Softaculous' and give the premium one a different name (and preferable also a lay-out that looks professional but is associated with the premium version instead of free version) since those that know Softaculous, probably know it as a free service. Why? Customers can't be fooled that way if there is a clear difference between the free and the premium version. The hosts that advertise Softaculous as one of their services, advertises the 58 scripts version. The hosts that advertise the premium version, though, says they're offering more then 100 scripts. Instead of just saying 'Softaculous, an auto-installer for your favorite scripts', and leaving the customer to guess whether it is the free or the premium version.


Also, with the current setup, I wonder whether the API for creating your own auto-installers to work with Softaculous will still work in the free version. If so, how would you prevent people from just trying to mimic your installation script and offer them for free on the web, thus removing the difference. Another reason for having a different name + lay-out for the premium version.



Just some food for thought, Alons.

API should be disabled in free version.

I would be intrested too see the list of the free versions scripts?
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Is monthly licenses to be added soon? I need this if I get more servers obviously. Thanks.

I really do like your software quite a bit still. I have it installed on my server and have a picture of it for my potential clients on my main site.


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Ok, I paid it. How will we know the existing license is converted to an owned lifetime? Also, how many of these owned lifetimes can I buy at that price?
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You have to add Wordpress to free version. Otherwise people will not even try Softaculous at all.
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First let me say that softaculous works great on my servers and I totally agree with a paid model at the pricing levels you are suggesting.

However, there are a couple of issues for VPS providers. If I rent a VPS to Joe for 6 months but I have to pay for 1 year of softaculous I am out 6 months. Charging Joe for 1 year during signup doesn't fit my model as this would be a large increase in the first month for him.

Ideas:
  • License a whole VPS node (perhaps this covers 25, 50, 75, or 100 installations)
  • License a whole provider (again tier levels might need to apply)
  • License a range of IP's (keep in mind that not every ip will be an individual box)
  • Allow floating licenses
  • Charge a per month rate with "points" that are prepurchased in order to stave off credit card transaction fees.


and yes please DO redesign the installer / site / forums (come on default theme?) with the money.
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dave, are you suggesting to license the whole VPS machine? And allow all VPS nodes in that machine to use softaculous? If you are a VPS provider (you own the machine) then you can purchase license in bulk. If you are a VPS client I don't think that's possible. The owner of the server/VPS machines are in charged of getting the license for their customers.

They already said somewhere here that they will offer monthly licensing structure so that will solve your problem
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May I have a list of scripts that are included in the Premium? :)

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Premium includes:
http://www.softaculous.com/softwares
with plans too add 50 more in V2 :)
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Dave we have bulk license schemes.
You need to contact sales.
The reason is that Bulk licenses get discounts!

RlsHosting monthly licenses will be available really soon.
But we can start providing them right away.
Please sontact sales.

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Quote From : RPD-Darren August 29, 2009, 8:38 am
Premium includes:
http://www.softaculous.com/softwares
with plans too add 50 more in V2 :)
The softwares listed there are the 58 scripts right? That are ALSO available to the free Softaculous version, right?

And what are the scripts in the Premium?

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BubblecrushWebHost  the scripts on the left are 100 in count and all are available in the Premium Version.

We plan to add another 50 very soon and it will take the count to 150.

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Can you please include Wordpress in the free version? And can you offer monthly license for dedicated servers at $2/month (because you offer it at $24/year)?


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Quote From : gieathome August 30, 2009, 5:23 am
Can you please include Wordpress in the free version? And can you offer monthly license for dedicated servers at $2/month (because you offer it at $24/year)?

We really havent decided on WordPress at the moment 2.0 is in full swing and another 50 scripts are in the making.
The monthly licenses will be available soon BUT you can even take it RIGHT NOW. Please contact sales. The price is $2.5 as Fixed Payment expenses have to be incurred more!

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Quote From : gieathome August 30, 2009, 5:23 am
Can you please include Wordpress in the free version? And can you offer monthly license for dedicated servers at $2/month (because you offer it at $24/year)?

We really havent decided on WordPress at the moment 2.0 is in full swing and another 50 scripts are in the making.
The monthly licenses will be available soon BUT you can even take it RIGHT NOW. Please contact sales. The price is $2.5 as Fixed Payment expenses have to be incurred more!

Regards,
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I hope you get a decision soon about Wordpress being in the free license.

How much for VPS monthly license?
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I don't think the best scripts should be in the free version, why would people upgrade?

Think Alons said 2.50$ for VPS monthly, which is very good.
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$2.5/month for dedicated
$1.5/month for VPS

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Quote From : RPD-Darren August 30, 2009, 12:41 pm
I don't think the best scripts should be in the free version, why would people upgrade?

Think Alons said 2.50$ for VPS monthly, which is very good.
Darren, the thing is that Softaculous doesn't have a massive userbase yet. It is installed under 1500 times, and frankly next to noone knows about it.

The thing is, do you prefer to have a wide userbase of 1 million users, of which 5% pays for the premium version, or do you prefer a small userbase of 100.000 users of which 90% pays for the premium? Looking at numbers, the latter would earn you more money, but it would expand slowly. The first case, would expand quite quickly once it gets going, and the bigger companies will likely pick the premium version to give their clients the most choice. If you advertise it, would you rather advertise 60 scripts or 160 scripts in the auto-installer... The total price for premium is low enough, if you're paying for an annual subscription the cost per user would perhaps be $1/year more, but I'd think it'd get closer to $0,05/year more with the proper server and enough users.


If I were to build an auto-installer like Alons did, I'd first try to make it popular and widely known, before I'd try convincing people to pay for premium. And how to do that? By including the most often used scripts in the installer for free. Of course, we don't need 5 of the most used scripts per category, one or two is fine. phpBB3 and Wordpress are rather often used, and that attracts customers if they can easily and automatically install it.
Instead of trying to convince people to pay for the auto-installer, I'd personally make the premium version be more extensive, have a better look and more functions (multiple skins perhaps, that look quite professional, as well as being able to easily rebrand it to your own name), and have a different name from the free solution. Those that don't pay, should be attracted to paying by the extra functions, not merely by the scripts they only can offer through the premium version.
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On thinking about it some more, I in many ways agree, perhaps quality over quantity sums it up.

My suggestion would be too cut down the amount of scripts in free, and add some of the more popular ones(phpBB, myBB should be in there).

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I agree, the popularity of this product is going to determine the long term stability so we all have a stake in this.

I think the model put forth by vT16 makes a lot of sense.

I will pay for the license just to have a better look and some branding options. I honestly dont car about at least 100 of the scripts in the installer.
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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
It really does help.
We are discussing this issue out and by 1st September we will formally annouce the decision

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Alons,

I have a question. I currently have the premium version, well actually, it is the free version before you created the concept of premium and free.

My problem is i'm going to change servers, with different IPs. When I download Softaculous now for my new server, it will be the Free version. How can I possibly have the "premium" version from my old server? Just to make it clear, i dont have a license key. I am using Softaculous even before it became premium. And I want to transfer this to my new server. I hope you can help me.
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Quote From : gieathome August 31, 2009, 10:20 am
Alons,

I have a question. I currently have the premium version, well actually, it is the free version before you created the concept of premium and free.

My problem is i'm going to change servers, with different IPs. When I download Softaculous now for my new server, it will be the Free version. How can I possibly have the "premium" version from my old server? Just to make it clear, i dont have a license key. I am using Softaculous even before it became premium. And I want to transfer this to my new server. I hope you can help me.
From what I gathered, you should be able to find your license key in the admin panel of Softaculous (not the client area, but the admin panel on your server). Enter the license key in the client area and change the IP. Done...
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Quote From : gieathome August 31, 2009, 10:20 am
Alons,

I have a question. I currently have the premium version, well actually, it is the free version before you created the concept of premium and free.

My problem is i'm going to change servers, with different IPs. When I download Softaculous now for my new server, it will be the Free version. How can I possibly have the "premium" version from my old server? Just to make it clear, i dont have a license key. I am using Softaculous even before it became premium. And I want to transfer this to my new server. I hope you can help me.
From what I gathered, you should be able to find your license key in the admin panel of Softaculous (not the client area, but the admin panel on your server). Enter the license key in the client area and change the IP. Done...

I don't have access to client area because I did not sign up to any client area before when I purchased the free Softaculous
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Your forum account is the login details for your client area:
http://www.softaculous.com/buyinginfo

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Hi alons,

Actually I have the free version that is premium after your decision so I have a question.
I have more than 3 dedicated servers and I want to buy one more premium license, What will be the price for me to buy lifetime licenses?
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Lifetime licenses are $150 for dedicated and $75 for VPS.
But if they were registered before 27th Aug 2009 its $24 and $12 for Dedicated and VPS respectively.
You can check the pricing here:
http://www.softaculous.com/pricing

Monthly and Yearly license rates are also found there.

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Hello.

I have been a member here from when you guys started so i would like to know a few things.

Do i get a discount because from the email it said i do..
Can the lisence be changed, for example a move to a new server?
Can i pay monthly with my discount..?

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Quote From : alons August 30, 2009, 6:02 pm
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
It really does help.
We are discussing this issue out and by 1st September we will formally annouce the decision
Still waiting for the announcement ;)
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Quote From : umarsa September 1, 2009, 3:04 pm
Hello.

I have been a member here from when you guys started so i would like to know a few things.

Do i get a discount because from the email it said i do..
Can the lisence be changed, for example a move to a new server?
Can i pay monthly with my discount..?

Thanks.

You can transfer the license to another server by updating the IPs.
No for the discount you have to pay the full $24 for the Lifetime. Monthly licenses are seperate.

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Thanks for the suggestions guys.
It really does help.
We are discussing this issue out and by 1st September we will formally annouce the decision
Still waiting for the announcement ;)

We have decided not to add it for now.
Once we are at 150 scripts we will reconsider the decision.

The reason for it is because we need to endorse the Scripts which Endorse Softaculous First. The scripts included have already announced that Softaculous installs their respective scripts.

Softaculous is going through some amazing changes and we will reconsider this decision once these amazing new features will be in Softaculous.

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We have decided not to add it for now.
Once we are at 150 scripts we will reconsider the decision.

The reason for it is because we need to endorse the Scripts which Endorse Softaculous First. The scripts included have already announced that Softaculous installs their respective scripts.

I think that is the correct decision however I think less FREE scripts will endorse Softaculous now it is mainly premium.
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Quote From : alons September 2, 2009, 7:09 am
We have decided not to add it for now.
Once we are at 150 scripts we will reconsider the decision.

The reason for it is because we need to endorse the Scripts which Endorse Softaculous First. The scripts included have already announced that Softaculous installs their respective scripts.

I think that is the correct decision however I think less FREE scripts will endorse Softaculous now it is mainly premium.

Its not that in my opinion.
Scripts should endorse an Auto Installer as long as they maintain security of the script and provide regular and fast updates.

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Alons, I'd like to ask you this: What are you aiming to do with Softaculous, both in the near future and on long term? As your current decision says to me that you rather have Softaculous expanding slowly but with mainly premiums, instead of having lots of users and have a smaller number of premiums.
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Alons, I'd like to ask you this: What are you aiming to do with Softaculous, both in the near future and on long term? As your current decision says to me that you rather have Softaculous expanding slowly but with mainly premiums, instead of having lots of users and have a smaller number of premiums.

Sir we do want a wider userbase free or premium is irrespective.
As I mentioned earlier we need to respect scripts which endorse Softaculous first.

If wordpress and phpbb had endorsed Softaculous we would have definitely added them as well in the Free version.
We had approached both of them and none even made a mention of Softaculous.

Others have heartily promoted Softaculous.
We are giving A good Product (FREE Version) even then.

And as I said Softaculous is going through amazing changes that will excite everyone when these changes are implemented.

Please understand my point.

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Quote From : vT16 September 2, 2009, 3:51 pm
Alons, I'd like to ask you this: What are you aiming to do with Softaculous, both in the near future and on long term? As your current decision says to me that you rather have Softaculous expanding slowly but with mainly premiums, instead of having lots of users and have a smaller number of premiums.

Sir we do want a wider userbase free or premium is irrespective.
As I mentioned earlier we need to respect scripts which endorse Softaculous first.

If wordpress and phpbb had endorsed Softaculous we would have definitely added them as well in the Free version.
We had approached both of them and none even made a mention of Softaculous.

Others have heartily promoted Softaculous.
We are giving A good Product (FREE Version) even then.

And as I said Softaculous is going through amazing changes that will excite everyone when these changes are implemented.

Please understand my point.

Regards,
Alons

I do understand your decision. I am merely questioning it ;)

Now, of those 'other' scripts, that endorse you... Which ones are the big ones? Can you give us names? MyBB? Joomla? phpnuke evolution?


Personally, I think phpBB and Wordpress are waiting with mentioning you until they are sure that you and your auto-installer actually are stable and secure. phpBB is known for having a long reviewing period for mods for their mod database, and why is that? Because they want to be sure that their users don't install mods that they endorse, which in reality actually are rootkits or the like. Since they're serving a lot of users, they need to be careful with what they endorse or not ;)
I'm not saying that the other ones might be not responsible either, but they're serving a smaller number of users, and are more capable of having more feature releases in favor of maintenance releases.


Personally, I appreciate Softaculous. The mere reason for me questioning your decisions is to give you more opinions and try to let you think from other viewpoints, so you can ensure that you're doing the right thing.
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If you want offer free and premium version is your decision, your work and your time. So, like others shareware scripts we need to accept your decision.

In my case I use DirectAdmin (shareware), Capri Skin (Shareware), Installatron (Shareware) and others monthly fees.

So, I can pay for this... It's good, It's stable, It's you offer a great support (never change this).

Your hard work have a price.

Maybe my comment cause anger in some users and sorry but it's my opinion.
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This reminds me: Is the API still available for creating your own installation scripts, in the free version?
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Quote From : vT16 September 2, 2009, 10:36 pm
This reminds me: Is the API still available for creating your own installation scripts, in the free version?

The API designed was always to integrate scripts at Softaculous for all of Softaculous.
It was a guide of how a script vendor can make their script available to all.

Even in the Premium Version there is no such feature.
We will add it in the near future.

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Quote From : alons September 3, 2009, 4:31 am
Quote From : vT16 September 2, 2009, 10:36 pm
This reminds me: Is the API still available for creating your own installation scripts, in the free version?

The API designed was always to integrate scripts at Softaculous for all of Softaculous.
It was a guide of how a script vendor can make their script available to all.

Even in the Premium Version there is no such feature.
We will add it in the near future.

Regards,
Alons

Will this feature be available in the free version as well? Since if it will be, then anyone could easily create the installation script for Wordpress or phpBB3 and what value has your premium package then? ;)
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Making an installation script is not that easy as it seems to be.
Even a small error will lead to impossible results.

And this feature when added will not be in the Free Version.

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Quote From : alons August 31, 2009, 11:19 am
Your forum account is the login details for your client area:
http://www.softaculous.com/buyinginfo

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Ok i have already retrieved and added the license to my client area. then what now? how can i transfer the license from the old server to the new server?
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Nevermind I got it

Am i seeing this correctly? One license number can have up to 8 IPs licensed? So that means can I purchase one license number and install up to 8 servers with different ips?
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No.
One license is for one server only.

Its when different IPs are present in one server.

Softaculous can distinguish between one server and many by various checks.

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Could you please make it possible to delete an invoice ?
I mistakenly created one and I can't figure how to discard it.

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Quote From : Marie September 4, 2009, 6:29 pm
Could you please make it possible to delete an invoice ?
I mistakenly created one and I can't figure how to discard it.

Thank you.

We are working on that.
I have cancelled you last invoice.

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I have a server and I am moving. I sold my current server to someone else. My problem is softaculous is already installed in the old server. I already updated the license number of the installation to the free one and move my premium to my new server. But when i checked the old server it is still using the premium license and not the free license. How do I fix that?
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Also do you cover for paypal fees? Meaning we send $2.5/mo inclusive of the paypal fees?
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Quote From : gieathome September 5, 2009, 3:03 am
I have a server and I am moving. I sold my current server to someone else. My problem is softaculous is already installed in the old server. I already updated the license number of the installation to the free one and move my premium to my new server. But when i checked the old server it is still using the premium license and not the free license. How do I fix that?

You will have to update the IPs in the client center.
And
$2.5 is inclusive of everything.

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Quote From : alons September 5, 2009, 12:19 pm
Quote From : gieathome September 5, 2009, 3:03 am
I have a server and I am moving. I sold my current server to someone else. My problem is softaculous is already installed in the old server. I already updated the license number of the installation to the free one and move my premium to my new server. But when i checked the old server it is still using the premium license and not the free license. How do I fix that?

You will have to update the IPs in the client center.
And
$2.5 is inclusive of everything.

Regards,
Alons

Yea I did that. i mentioned that in my post. But after updating, i can still see the premium version in the old server even if the ip is already different in the client area
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Please run the following command to update the License:
root> php /usr/local/cpanel/whostmgr/docroot/cgi/softaculous/cron.php

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