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VictorS
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Hello,

Have you considered featuring integration with GPLhost.com's "Domain Technologie Control" (DTC) panel?

As this is a free script installer, it makes sense to feature integration with a free control panel.

Thanks for your time and best regards.

Victor
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alons
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We have already put that in our to do lists.
But we need to integrate with others as well.
If DTC itself would help us in the process we can start work ASAP.

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VictorS
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I already made a post regarding this at GPLhost's forum:

Softaculous + DTC? (1-click script installer)

I would be thrilled to see an actual project for integration.

Feel free to interact further with Thomas here:

http://forums.gplhost.com/

DTC + Softaculous can very well be the #1 alternative to cPanel/Fantastico (at least I hope so).

Best regards and thanks for your time.

Victor

Edited by VictorS : July 5, 2009, 9:21 pm
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alons
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At present we are working on Direct Admin and we will take up DTC or ISPconfig next

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gplhost-thomas
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Hi,

I'd be very happy to help anyone wishing to integrate softaculous with DTC. Feel free to add me on MSN / Yahoo / etc : http://www.gplhost.com/gplhost-contact.html

Thomas

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gplhost-thomas
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There is one major blocker here, in your license:

"You may NOT modify our Softaculous Code in any way, however you may
modify THEMES, LANGUAGES and the SCRIPTS INSTALLED by SOFTACULOUS based
on your needs.[li]Users may NOT, however, redistribute or repost/ resell for download
any part of this software (SOFTACULOUS PACKAGE) without expressed
written consent from the Softaculous Team. Redistribution is defined as
re-offering our scripts for download in any fashion, whether on a
competing web site, an application that generates code snippets, or a
CD-ROM collection of PHP codes etc. HOWEVER, you can redistribute only
the Scripts/Codes that are permitted by their respective licenses for
redistribution.[/li]

[li]Users agree not to remove/ edit the credit notice within the source code, or claim the code to be work of their own.

[/li][li]Users agree not to use this software for illegal purposes, or on sites containing illegal material.[/li]

[li]Users agree not to hold http://www.softaculous.com/ (Softaculous)
or any other copyright holder or developer of this software, liable for
any damages resulted from proper or improper use of any of this
software. Use at your own risk.[/li]

[li]USERS MUST NOT REMOVE OR HIDE OR MODIFY the copyright notice at the bottom of every page created.[/li]

[li]An annual license includes support and updating for a period of one
year. To receive support and updates after one year requires a renewal
of the license. [/li]

[li]A lifetime license (also called an "owned" or "one-time" license) includes support and updating for the life of the product. [/li]

[li]VPS licenses may only be used on Virtual Private Server servers. [/li]

[li]You understand that breach of this License will result in immediate
cancellation of your license(s), and no refunds will be given. [/li]

[li]The pricing structure may be changed at any time. Price changes do
not affect existing licenses. The new rates will be applicable to the
existing licenses when the license is renewed. [/li]
Why not release your software as free software? This doesn't make sense.

Thomas

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alons
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The Price clause will be removed.
What else is the Hurdle

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gplhost-thomas
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Nearly ALL of our license page would be to be removed. Please read this:

http://www.debian.org/social_contract

You software, to be considered free in my eyes, and in the eyes of so many, have to match the rules stated in the above URL.

The clause of your license that is the worst of the worst is that you guys are forbidding that a 3rd party changes your code. NO WAY I would work with so much restrictions.

Can't you simply set yourself as FREE, using a BSD or LGPL license (or GPL of you don't want anyone to do commerce with your work) ? If you did, then there even would be a chance that someone (for example me) would do the Debian packaging work so your software gets included in Debian and Ubuntu. Like this, there is ZERO chance this happens.

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alons
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At the moment there is no thought on making it GPL or somewhat like license.
Is it not possible to include a FREE software in your software.
If not then we ca still make the integration for the Panel an let individual Admins add Softaculous

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gplhost-thomas
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It IS possible to include a FREE (as freedom) software in our panel, we in fact include quite some already. But it's always preferable to package them separately, so like if softaculous can be setup for other panels than DTC, then there's a single place in the distribution where to set it up. My intention was to do like this: make some Debian and RPM package for softaculous. But if you have a so much restrictive license, then I'm done, I can't do it, you are forbiding me to do so.

That is why I was asking: do you want to change the license, so that everyone has the rights to change your code?

Thomas

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alons
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I amsorry but the license is what we want at the moment.
We havent considered going Open Source.
Thanks for the suggestion.
We will consider it

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VictorS
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Hello dear Alons and Thomas.

I'm sure there is a "middle term" possibility to enable integration.

Let's work this out. There has to be a way to achieve installation without changing source code.

The integration of the best control panel has to be -logically- with the best script installer: DTC + Softaculous.

Best regards.
Victor

Edited by VictorS : July 11, 2009, 7:38 pm
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gplhost-thomas
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Hi,

I'm sorry, but I don't see any way of helping having softaculous integrate with our control panel if I don't even have the rights to modify a single line of code in it.

Thomas

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alons
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By way of right we can give rights and permissions to edit softpanel.php which is the integrator into any Panel.
We recently did that for Direct Admin.
But Thomas has to be sure this will not affect their License to include a Proprietory but FREE license that is not OPEN SOURCE!
We are always ready to integrate into control panels.

Regards,
Alons

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My intention was to do like this: make some Debian and RPM package for softaculous.


Dear alons,

Then the question is clear: can Thomas get enough rights to build the debian/rpm package?

Thank you.
Victor
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gplhost-thomas
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Quote From : alons July 12, 2009, 9:54 am
a Proprietory but FREE license that is not OPEN SOURCE!


Outch, what a pain to read this. If it's not open source, then it's NOT FREE. Please do not write such thing, this is confusing everyone. ANYONE working with open source, being a Debian maintainer, having relations with GNU, or anything like this will be horrified by what I just quoted. In fact, it IS a bit shocking.

Free, for a license, talks about freedom, not about the fact that it's Free of charge (in other words: that you give the software without requesting any sort of (monetary) compensation). So you do NOT have a "free license" at all. Your license if far from being free, it's rather very restrictive. A license NEVER talks about the price of the product, but what a user can or can't do with the (purchased?) product. We say that the license of a product is "free" when the user can do almost anything.

Now about the word "open source". Your product, if I understand it well, make the source code available to anyone (with the restriction that nobody can change it). In this case, this IS open source. You have opened your source code to anyone, even if nobody can change it. This reminds me the kind of open source license done my Microsoft in fact.

Just to make it very clear and to be sure everybody understands: I'm not discussing any of your decisions above, just making word definitions as it seems very unclear in your mind. These word definitions are VERY important, especially when talking about licensing, as this is a lawyer thing. What concerns my feeling is below.

I feel it's a shame to give a product without any monetary compensation
and source code open, but yet not making it free. What's the point of
disclosing all of your code, but not making it possible to modify it?

All this being said, I'd be happy to help the integration in our control panel still, but as I can't do it myself because of your license, the only thing I can do to help the integration is answer questions about our panel... which I'd be very happy to do. Get in touch with me! My IDs are here: http://www.gplhost.com/gplhost-contact.html (care: these are NOT email addresses).

Thomas

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alons
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I am sorry about the wrong words I have used.
As such I will look into it and draft a proper and Modified License.
We will get in touch with you and integrate it into DTC.

Regards,
Alons

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We will get in touch with you and integrate it into DTC.


The very best news!

Thank you Alons and Thomas.

Kindest regards,

Victor
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VictorS
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Hello dear friends,

Has any progress been done regarding DTC/Softaculous integration?

What's the status?

Thank you very much.

Victor
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alons
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Sir at the moment we are busy in making softaculous a better product by revamping the whole CODE.
It will take a while before we can integrate.

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VictorS
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Dear alons,

Please do not forget about integration with this great control panel as it is included in debian and it is the leader in this field for the open source world.

Just wanted to say that. Integration with DTC can't be missing!

Thanks a bunch for a great product.

Victor
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alons
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Yes sir I understand.
Butweare working on improving Softaculous first and then we will proceed with any integration.

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I always said that I would help, and replied multiple times to emails from Softaculous. So not, it doesn't depend on GPLHost.
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